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Stats are incorrect

Post by xNCrush » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:09 pm

Hi Kyle,

There's something that's bothering me with the stats pages.

Let's look at the standings.

The Flyers have 10 GP, 7 wins (21 pts), 2 losses (0 pts) and an OTL (1 pt) for a total of 22 points. That's correct on the site.

Korhal have 10 GP, 7 wins (21 pts), 3 losses (0 pts) for 21 points. That's also correct.

But then enters the OTW.

Mar Sara has 10 GP, 7 wins, 1 OTW, 2 losses and 1 OTL... But wait, that's 11 games? (7+1+2+1 = 11). And if you add up the points you get 7*3 + 1*2 + 0*2 + 1*1 = 21+2+1 = 24 points, which clearly isn't correct.

I've done some math, and it looks like it's simply any OTW is also being credited in the W column. So in the case of Mar Sara, their actual record would be 6 wins, 1 OTW, 2 L, 1 OTL, which would be 21 points. I've done the same math with all the other teams that have OTW recorded, and if you subtract the OTW from the W column, the math checks out.

It's minor, but would make the stats page make a lot more sense to me, and probably others.

Thanks, and much love!
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by l)arkangel » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:10 pm

Wins count OTW and RW and wins in shootouts.
ROW counts the same thing, except for shoot out wins (which are a different amount of points.
This threw me for a loop first time i looked at it too :D
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by Kyle » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:03 pm

Correct, on the Standings page, W means "Win," "RW" means "Regulation Win," "OTW" means "Overtime/Shootout Win." So W=RW+OTW.
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by xNCrush » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:43 pm

Hmm, I've never seen a site that grouped W with OTW when the two are worth different amounts of points. But I haven't seen many such sites. Seems weird to me, but carry on.
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by Kyle » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:58 pm

"W" isn't worth anything; it's a cumalitive category including both RW and OTW. It's not worth any points, though. You're thinking of "RW."
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by xNCrush » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:49 am

Yeah, I get it. I'm just a stats junky and I've never seen it laid out in that particular manner. I'll get over it.
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by Kyle » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Only professional sports league that I know of that awards points the way we do is the KHL in Russia, and I'm pretty sure they display a cumulative W category, too.
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by xNCrush » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:04 pm

Kyle wrote:Only professional sports league that I know of that awards points the way we do is the KHL in Russia, and I'm pretty sure they display a cumulative W category, too.
Nope, they do it how I would expect:
http://en.khl.ru/standings/266/conference/
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by Kyle » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:40 pm

So they do. Bit confusing simply calling the category referring to regulation wins "Wins," but it does simplify records a bit to omit a cumulative category. Maybe when I have some time I'll revise ours.
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Re: Stats are incorrect

Post by Kyle » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:08 pm

Posting this here, as well, since this was the first place somebody brought up the confusion of the standings board. It's been revised a bit now (finally). Obviously a little late in the season for it to mean much, but does that make it any easier to comprehend, fellas?
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