I'm not hurt... It's just fair. If EU has no intent on trying to allow NA to play in their lag, then why should NA waste their time/effort to allow EU to play NA? lol?Rigensis wrote:There was another NA player in EU open - eldersage on ducks - it seemed that there wasn`t problems with lags. Its definitely worth to look into it.
The whole experience of lags is different from player to player - for example - it seems that McDoudles can play on east lag free all the time - so why wouldnt he be allowed to play?
Sure I had personally bad time on probees due to lag - but no lag on east inhouses - this experience made me a solid believer in xapos principle - why leagues east Inhouses are laggy if non-league Inhouses are lag-free? And no - I think i played in 3 games - personally i think the reason there was lag was because me and some one from my team had problems to connect - I remember that after caster left, bench left and only 7 people were left in the last probee game I played we had no lag. Theres definitely some mechanics under it which causes lag happen but its not as simple as "he is from eu, he lags" or even not as simple as xapos effect. Until theres some research done we will never know. (But the whole experience with being a part of Mar Sara S3 was awesome - it made it much more interesting to watch NA games on stream and priceless to see inner workings of NA team. Apart from lag it was great trip to NA.)
Back to the topic -
As commissioner I could have worked with NA folks who wanted to play on EU by testing out their lag situation, adding new rules like (If alien server player plays 2 lag free probe games heshe can play in main league), or many other stuff to create trust in EU people to vote yes for adding NA players in our first draft league. But exactly the fact its our first draft league - copy/pasta of na rules for 3 season - we have no idea how this league will turn out - with NA ppl in it it would be even more unpredictable. If anyone is hurt about that decision - please sorry, understand - its our first step in draft league and I wanted to play safe. That decision wasn`t meant as disrespect to NA players. And I guess - I never said thank you for creating rules for ZHL which we are using without permission Thank You!
But NA has their 4th season starting - so they have huge experience with draft league - so I think it would be right time for them to try figure out the best rule set for creating safety net for catching EU players who cant play on NA and allowing to participate in their events those who can play lag-free.
It will definitely draw more interest for NA events from EU.
Using arguments like "they didnt include us" or "that player lags thus everyone is lagging" is not the best way to deal with this challenge. And I heard Americans are great finding solutions to tough challenges
Plus - I agree with Pink - Blizz plz fix.
- On the topic of lag.. I can play EU with 0 lag, but only if I'm not with other NA who will lag me, and I could prove this 20 games in a row. I can only get this kind of playable delay on EU when I play on a very good connection though (my house internet is near good enough). However I could promise to never play EU league unless I was on my 200MB/s DL internet. However that is far down the road.
So in conclusion I again.. state that EU shouldn't ever be allowed into ZHL until atleast some solid rules are set into stone about cross-server play that is mutual between the 2 servers, and that EU and NA both allow each other into their respected leagues with these rules set in place and mandated to be followed. Their shouldn't be any cross-server play in such a high level game like ZHL or EZHL. It just is bad/not logical.
-However to say that NA will automatically will lag or EU will automatically will lag is kind of un-true. One reason why NA can help EU with their cross-server play is because NA has realized the difference between east/west servers, whereas EU seems to have turned a blind eye to the servers on EU (I think?). So I think cross-server play is in the future, but quite far away.