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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by DerrocK » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:40 pm

Added Tomek and re-added Logik. 6 rankers now, moar are welcum :>
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by Shusuke » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:21 am

TOMEK RANK ME 99 99 100!
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Post by handsumSnail » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:14 pm

i got some love from Snake, Tomek and Loogik <3
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by DerrocK » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:14 pm

Malduras is updating the visuals of the rankings and we are starting to work on a new goalie ranking! We have added like 30 names, if any skater wants to be added to the goalie ranking just needs to ask!

Also for the goalie rankings we havent decided yet what to evaluate: 1v1, snipes, reaction, crease, consistency/solidness, style (agressive, conservative, etc, this is subjective tho), etc...

If anyone has a suggestion please let us know!
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by Slide » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:05 am

i would like to rank goalie if possible, other suggestion for the ranking goalie : Passing
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by BacKFisCh » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:31 am

another important thing for goalies is the predictability in his actions so that the defense knows what the goalie is covering to allow a good synergy between goalie and def.
But this might also be covered with consistency/solidness.

Also I agree with slide, passing is one of the most important things a goalie needs to do. The best saves arent enough when the pass goes directly to the opposite team giving a free shot and a 1v1 opportunity.
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by Dalton » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:03 am

I think it's way too specific to seperate the goalie rankings in all these subsections and you will end up artificially inflating/deflating those values just to make the end result reflect how you feel about who are the best/worst goalies.
This is already the case sometimes with skaters rankingss even though they have just 3 sections.

EDIT: example to clarify what i mean with that:
If we look at boom's ratings, we all know that the numbers in the support and attack category are off(inflated), this is obviously done because in the current system boom would be way lower then his actual value if those numberes were entered accurately.

Besides that something like a "1v1" subscore relies so heavily on who the skater that's trying to score is, and how much time they have available.
Even if you found a way to accurately index 1v1 skill you would still have to do some giant investigation to determine how relevant that statistic is to overall skill considering the amount of times a goalie actually has to perform a 1v1 in a (league?) game which in turn is depending on their defense.

There is similair questionable assets to pretty much every subcategory proposed.

I think a ranking like NA does is much more suitable, at least for goalies but possibly also for skaters, where you just have a single digit. Or even just dividing them over different tiers.
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by DerrocK » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:23 am

Im not saying we are going to put all those categories lol, just offering examples of what we could put, i think max 3 values.
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by Dalton » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:26 am

DerrocK wrote:Im not saying we are going to put all those categories lol, just offering examples of what we could put, i think max 3 values.
you asked for suggestions im giving one =)
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Re: The Ranking UPDATE!

Post by Slide » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:18 am

to be honest goalie depend on a lot of thing that a goalie cannot do anything against like his defense, so yeah it's hard to rank goalie with all these but still we can have something.
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